Should turn signals be required when turning is clearly the only option?

Question

In the state of CA, VC 22107 states: "No person shall turn a vehicle from a direct course or move right or left upon a roadway until such movement can be made with reasonable safety and then only after the giving of an appropriate signal in the manner provided in this chapter IN THE EVENT ANY OTHER VEHICLE MAY BE AFFECTED BY THE MOVEMENT."

Anyone disputing the interpretation of this law, please refer to California v. Carmona (Court of Appeal, State of California, 5/27/2011), which set a precedent that establishes that even an ONCOMING POLICE CAR is not affected by someone turning right, thus he not required to signal if no one is behind him. Also, I'm not posing this question to Fl**Mich... because his arguments are incoherent. For everyone else, I'm looking for a reason why you believe it's a flawed law in CA, because apparently some states require turn signals no matter what.

One argument comes to mind: By not requiring turn signals no matter what, we are inviting people to "forget" to signal during times when it IS required, thus causing danger that would otherwise be prevented. Unfortunately, this is a slippery slope argument, a fallacy, and therefore invalid.

But, for the sake of argument, let's suppose that a particular driver never "forgets" to signal where required. Other times, he will exercise his option and forgo it, such as scenarios like the one above with the police car, but also in situations where no cars are nearby. I can't see how this is unreasonable or dangerous.

However, one particular scenario I'm not so sure about. There's a driveway in front of a 7-11 where I can't see how signaling affects anyone, because it leads onto a street with a center median. So, turning right is the only option. Keep in mind I am NOT referring to marked turn lanes which make it illegal to do anything but turn, because other cars may not know that, thus it can be a hazard to fail to warn them. My scenario makes my intention to turn indisputable since the median is physical, not painted.

Am I missing something here? Because it seems to meet the requirement set forth in VC 22107, but I'm not sure. But even if it does, how is this dangerous in states other than CA? Is it really a safety issue, or is it meant to generate ticket revenue? (which is very common of many silly laws) There has to be something I'm not getting. Pray tell? Thanks!

Answer 1

there have always been two opposite arguments about this , do you automatically always signal when turning or changing lanes, supposedly safer or do you signal in response to the circumstances and traffic which would indicate you are more aware and alert

Answer 2

You should signal even when it's the only option other wise some people might get nervous and think you don't know you're in a turn lane or are using it for something else (I.e. cutting in front of thru traffic when the light changes to green) Besides, what's wrong with signaling even if it's the only option? Signaling requires no effort. Also, some people might be unaware that you're in a turn lane. Example, you're turning left and an oncoming drive wants to turn right on red, when your light changes to green, they might think you are actually going straight because they can't see that it's a turn lane and you aren't signaling. So they might end up pulling in front of you. And with the median situation, signaling shows that you are aware that turning right is the only option and you don't think that the travel lane goes the opposite way or if there's multiply lanes, then that one or more of them goes the opposite way it actually does. Bottom line, alway signal intentions regardless of turning being the only option.

Answer 3

stop wasting the few brain cells you have left beating a dead pot hole. The reason you signal is because you need to establish the intent to turn the car for all to see. It does not say in case you make a right turn and dont feel like it. The law is not there for you to split butt hairs its there to prevent accidents There are almost no dead end streets as you describe anywhere in any case so relax let it go find a better plan in life than this waste of breath.

Answer 4

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