Question:
Why do people go on about cyclists being a danger to pedestrians when….?
Spud the Bull Terrier
2009-09-03 05:23:34 UTC
When the statistics suggest that you are far more likely to be killed by a car.

In Britain on average there are 40 pedestrians killed on pavements or verges by motor vehicle every year. In contrast on average there is only 1 pedestrian killed every 3 or 4 years, while on the pavement

For the whole of Britain's road network, there were 3894 pedestrians killed in collisions in 2000-04. Just 9 of these involved cyclists, none of them on the footway.
Thirteen answers:
Andy W
2009-09-04 00:35:16 UTC
Cars don't, as a matter of course, drive on pavements.

Cars don't generally use a red light as a signal to just continue (yes the occasional one does but not normally)

Cars don't generally speed over pedestrian crossings weaving in and out of pedestrians using it.

etc

etc



Using KSI stats in the way you have is disingenuous and you know it.
Bilge Rat
2009-09-03 05:32:14 UTC
Far fewer people are killed because there are far fewer cyclists and a collision is less likely to be fatal because they are smaller, lighter and do not move as quickly.



However, since bikes are silent there is more chance of a pedestrian wandering in front of any given cyclist than any given driver. Obviously if cyclists ever ride on the pavement then this won't help matters although I have not seen many cyclists doing this.
brianthesnailuk2002
2009-09-03 05:31:01 UTC
Just because you are more likely to be killed by a car does not mean that cycling on the pavement (which often occurs) is not a danger to pedestrians. (There is nothing in the statement that talks about death, only the danger)



Who is to say that some of those people that were killed by cars were killed because they jumped off the pavement (or as well pointed out - Footpath) into the road to avoid and oncoming cyclist ?
anonymous
2009-09-03 05:35:11 UTC
Cyclists are a danger to pedestrians here in London because many of them jump red lights on pedestrian crossings flying through without warning and also because they mount the pavement and ride along it in a dangerous manner.



The Mayor of London, Boris Johnson, has already announced a massive tightening up of the rules of the road.



The Highway Code clearly states that cyclists must not use pavements unless there is a cycle lane built into it.



Cyclists must also know the highway code and obey it.



Cyclists need to learn to use the roads properly otherwise life will just go on getting ever more difficult for all of us.



PEDESTRIAN LONDONER
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2016-10-19 07:45:21 UTC
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Trevor h
2009-09-03 09:22:28 UTC
Cyclists need to realise that the Highway Code applies to them, in fact they have their own section in there.



So look out you pedestrians, because i have lost count of the number of cyclists i have seen ignoring red lights at junctions and crossings!



As a driving Instructor i am out on the road regularly and i see these offences almost daily - it is not just isolated incidents.



So come on cyclists - behave responsibly - no wonder so many of you get injured by cars, and pedestrians are now becoming wary of YOU!
rapierlynx
2009-09-03 14:19:59 UTC
Actually, the real reason that cyclists shouldn't ride on the sidewalk, er, pavement is they are more likely to be hit by cars turning into and out of sideroads and driveways. Drivers don't expect people to be moving that quickly on the pavement, and don't look far enough to see them.
k
2009-09-04 01:09:58 UTC
The statistics you quote are about DEATHS of pedestrians by the 'hands' of motor vehicles.



A lot of pedestrians are INJURED by cyclists on pavements. I have been knocked over by cyclists on the pavement, and the cyclists have yelled at me, along the lines of 'You silly #####, you should be on here (pavement)'. My understanding is that is ILLEGAL for cyclists to be on pavements.
anonymous
2009-09-04 04:18:29 UTC
I don't want to be run over by either. And I am right in saying cyclists are a danger, but they do not drive a 2 ton chunk of iron so maybe you should also look at the severity of the accident.
anonymous
2009-09-03 07:15:55 UTC
It is possible to be a danger to pedestrians without causing fatal accidents. Cyclists can definitely be a danger to pedestrians if they ride irresponsibly.
WelshLad
2009-09-03 10:08:52 UTC
You have only mentioned collisions resulting in death.

How many collisions have there been causing injury involving cyclists and pedestrians?



Where did your figures come from?



This statement of yours is very one sided and biased.
anonymous
2009-09-03 05:32:16 UTC
To say nothing of the knifings in Britain.
?
2009-09-03 05:53:49 UTC
The use of the word "pavement" indicates your one-sided interest. The alternative word "footpath" answers your question automatically!


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